Steve Pezman

by Glenn Sakamoto · 10 comments

Steve Pez­man is a Cal­i­for­nia surfer/publisher who is the cre­ator of The Surfer’s Jour­nal. Pez­man has brought surf­ing to the level of schol­ar­ship and merit and is often quoted in films and pub­li­ca­tions. We spoke with Pez­man about his life and philosophy.

Tell us a lit­tle bit about your­self.
I was born in 1941and I grew up in Los Ange­les. My fam­ily lived in Los Feliz orig­i­nally, and then later moved to Brent­wood, above the city, in the Santa Mon­ica moun­tain area. We even­tu­ally ended up in Long Beach in an area called Naples—a lit­tle com­mu­nity of canals. This intro­duced me to life at the ocean ver­sus an annual trip to the beach every sum­mer with the family.

I started off skin div­ing, in the mid 50s, in the Alami­tos Bay area. Surf­ing was just start­ing to hap­pen in ’56 or ’57. By 1957, I was begin­ning to surf at Ray Bay in Seal Beach and the Hunt­ing­ton Cliffs. The Hunt­ing­ton Pier beck­oned but we were afraid to go there until we had “earned our bones”. Over the fol­low­ing years, I called the Seal Beach/Huntington zone home and began surf­ing Tres­tles in 1960, hit Mazat­lan in 1961 and then Hawaii in ’62.

I lived on the North Shore when only a dozen or so surfers lived out there, so although that had been hap­pen­ing for five years, it still felt like we were pio­neer­ing. I rode Waimea, Sun­set and Laniakea—had that foun­da­tional surf­ing expe­ri­ence. I ended up com­ing back, life­guard­ing, doing other odd jobs, then ship­ping out as a civil­ian in the Mer­chant Marine (to Viet­nam) in 1965 car­ry­ing a cargo of stale beer to the PX’s. When I came home, I was a part­ner in a silk screen­ing busi­ness. Then we started the Good Earth Health Food Bar at George’s Surf Cen­ter in Hunt­ing­ton with some money I had inherited.

Later, I learned to shape surf­boards. I shaped momen­tar­ily for sev­eral labels, includ­ing Weber, Hobie, and did longer stints with Varde­man and Chuck Dent. Next, a friend, Stu Herz , and I built an exper­i­men­tal shap­ing machine and started the first pri­vate label surf­board man­u­fac­tur­ing busi­ness out of Goat Hill in Costa Mesa—making boards for shops in Texas and the East Coast. Later, we started our own label, Cre­ative Designs Surf­boards, first on P.C.H. in New­port Beach then smack-dab in Surf City, down­town Hunt­ing­ton, in ’68 and ‘69.

How did you get started in pub­lish­ing?
Duke Boyd, who started Hang Ten, was also serv­ing as man­ag­ing edi­tor at Petersen’s Inter­na­tional Surf­ing mag­a­zine. He was help­ing pub­lisher Dick Gra­ham repo­si­tion his title as com­pe­ti­tion to Surfer. Duke was hip enough to mer­chan­dise the mag­a­zine around the Hunt­ing­ton Under­ground, which was flow­ing back and forth between there and the North Shore, at a time when Surfer was still a bit obliv­i­ous to what was going on. This was the lat­ter 60s. He invited Stu and I to write surf­board arti­cles and later brought me in as an assis­tant editor.

After Surf­ing folded six months later (the adverts stuck with Surfer), I went down to Surfer to see if I could free­lance and they hired me as an inside edi­tor. Six months later, I fell into the publisher’s job because John (Sev­er­son) had sold the mag­a­zine and was look­ing for some­one to fill that chair. I stayed as pub­lisher for about 20 years until 1992, when my wife Debbee (who had been mar­ket­ing direc­tor at Surfer) and I left and started The Surfer’s Journal.

Tell us about your rela­tion­ship to surf­ing.
Magazine-wise, I’ve been a stu­dent of the sport for over 40 years in the sense of observ­ing it and think­ing about it and writ­ing about it, and being respon­si­ble for describ­ing it to other surfers in an accu­rate way. When you pay atten­tion to some­thing for that long, you acquire a sense of its his­tor­i­cal time­line and that gives you ref­er­ence points with which to under­stand much more of it—to be able to exam­ine it and have a rela­tion­ship with it.

My life has been about artic­u­lat­ing that rela­tion­ship. I’ve been lucky to earn a liv­ing involved with some­thing that I really care about deeply, which is bet­ter than weld­ing bridges or some­thing. (Laughs)

With The Surfer’s Jour­nal, do you see your­self as the cura­tor of the sport?
I am one of the cura­tors. For­tu­nately, or unfor­tu­nately, when you print infor­ma­tion, it has the ten­dency to be taken as the truth … and it sel­dom is the whole truth. That is a big responsibility—if you take it seriously—which I do. It’s also a reward­ing cre­ative process. It’s like being an art gallery owner who loves art and gets to install a new show every two months. Every issue is artic­u­lated through a matrix of hun­dreds of peo­ple who must join together just so to make this thing come out. It’s really a mir­a­cle that it gets done. You become the con­duc­tor of that ensem­ble and the results reflect the team. It’s like we put our­selves out there, stand­ing naked before the world, and the read­ers give you thumbs up … or thumbs down. We get plenty of both.

Describe what surf­ing is for you.
At the time I was an accom­plished surfer, I would ride maybe 25 to 35 waves or more in a go-out. At that time I was involved in the close-up detail of each ride. The longer I surfed and the older I got, the more basic it became; the rela­tion­ship became sim­pli­fied. I was sat­is­fied with a less com­pli­cated ride and sought ele­gance ver­sus busy action—trim ver­sus lot of move­ment. You begin to see the big­ger pic­ture from a higher ele­va­tion. A deep take­off with a pure, clean trim becomes very sat­is­fy­ing. At that point, the num­ber of rides reduces. I would ride maybe three in a go-out instead of 35. How­ever, the plea­sure of the whole expe­ri­ence was just as large. It filled the same space that 35 rides had.

You begin to rise away from the detail clut­ter each year. I’m 68. I hate to think how many years I’ve been surf­ing. My god, it’s been over 50 years! As you start float­ing higher and higher above it, you view a broader swatch. You lose the lit­tle detail and see the big pic­ture of it all. After a while, just sit­ting on your board in the lineup becomes joy­ous. You are immersed in the sen­sa­tion and you appre­ci­ate the per­spec­tive it affords.

Tell us more.
There is some­thing cos­mic about surf­ing. Waves are nature’s mode of trans­fer­ring energy from A to B. They occur in many forms: thought waves, heat waves, radio waves. Ocean waves hap­pen to be some­thing that we can see and then we actu­ally learned to ride them, which in itself seems very improb­a­ble, so improb­a­ble that the surf cul­ture was detached from the main­stream. Wave rid­ing has always been an inte­gral part of the Hawai­ian cul­ture, but in West­ern cul­ture it was seen as such an anom­aly, such an unusual side­bar, that it didn’t seem seri­ously worth doing.

When you go surf­ing amongst the many things you might do in a day, it makes the day feel good—somehow round and com­plete. That con­nec­tion to the basic cos­mic core of energy at the cen­ter of Life in the Uni­verse some­how makes wave rid­ing deeply sat­is­fy­ing. It is some­thing that you can spend your time doing and it feels like a life well spent—a non-productive, non-depletive act that is purely aesthetic.

(Tim­o­thy) Leary was doing lec­tures at col­lege cam­puses in the 70s that he called “Man, The Evo­lu­tion­ary Surfer”. Of course, that caught our atten­tion at Surfer Mag­a­zine. We inter­viewed him and his point was that surfers weren’t the dregs of soci­ety. They were the throw-a-heads! Surfers under­stood that life was all about the aes­thetic, not how many acorns you could store in a tree beyond what you needed to eat. Leary felt that the evo­lu­tion of Man to his high­est pos­si­ble form would be towards a purely aes­thetic state of being. Fur­ther, Leary believed that surfers were already trav­el­ing that path. There­fore, their role amongst mankind in gen­eral was to lead us (laughs) to a higher place (more laughter).

As spacey as that might seem to some folks, there is some­thing within that idea that gives surfers a sense of jus­ti­fi­ca­tion about mak­ing time for surfing—and that being time well-spent. It’s all a rather ver­bose, bom­bas­tic state­ment, but I think there is some­thing to it.

What can you tell us about the sen­sory aspects of surf­ing?
From a pub­lish­ing stand­point, surf­ing itself is so sen­sory that when a surfer is famil­iar with the sen­sa­tion of doing it, look­ing at a pho­to­graph will give him a per­cent­age of that sen­sa­tion by being men­tally con­nected to it. It’s the basic foun­da­tion for the suc­cess of surf magazines—you’re pro­vid­ing pretty intense vic­ar­i­ous expe­ri­ences to surfers who can relate to them.

I actu­ally like myself as a surfer, and my sense of surf­ing aes­thetic. How­ever, I don’t like the way I am dete­ri­o­rat­ing because of old age. I can’t pop-up any more. (The com­mon old-guy lament.) That destroys your chore­og­ra­phy because it means you can’t take off where you want to; you take off where you have to (laughs).

It’s all about feel­ing trim across the green wall. That’s my dream image. Man yearns to fly. It’s the “Icarus Syn­drome”. Surf­ing is as close to what I imag­ine swoop­ing and glid­ing like a bird would be like. The wave is a liq­uid base. Every­thing about it is soft and fluid, so the ride itself is a fluid expe­ri­ence, a deeply grat­i­fy­ing flight. It touches some­thing in your soul that makes you feel so good that when you glide out over the back of the wave after a ride, you are still flushed with the sen­sa­tion, and you pad­dle out com­pelled to have another one … and another one … and another one.

The Surfer’s Jour­nal, a pub­li­ca­tion by Steve Pez­man can be found here.

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Bruce Cowan April 5, 2010 at 10:20 am

I don’t want to say the best of the interviews as there have been several very good ones. But lets say this in top 5. Thanks!

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James Kamo April 5, 2010 at 10:43 am

Legend!

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Matt April 5, 2010 at 1:56 pm

Very insightful.

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Dan Costa April 6, 2010 at 12:31 am

Thank God we are surrounding by people who do something greater than the majority and are willing to share and teach.

I never forgot the words of Steve in the Glass Love movie…..

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bkh2o April 6, 2010 at 8:21 am

Pez is the Walter Cronkite of the surfing world.

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Jair Bortoleto April 6, 2010 at 10:22 am

Very very very very good…!!!

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Grant Newby April 6, 2010 at 11:04 am

What a great insight into a great guy who has led the way in surf publishing. So refreshing to read an informative magazine on surfing with little of the commercial hype of so many others. Nice job.

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Watson April 8, 2010 at 10:00 pm

@bkh2o

“Pez is the Wal­ter Cronkite of the surf­ing world.”

That comment is so true. He is interviewed in every documentary surf film and always has something interesting to say about the history. Pez is classic.

Good score Glen.

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Pismo Beach Surf Shop July 30, 2010 at 7:03 pm

Just added a vintage Creative Designs surfboard to our collection. This is a great story. Thanks———-

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Brett October 30, 2011 at 11:38 am

Hi my name is Brett and I have some old surf magazine from
The 1960s of Mike Haley do you know anyone interested??

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